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« on: August 04, 2010, 01:06:55 PM »



The Today show is right: the government must save us from ourselves. A more prevalent problem for Big Brother (and, oh, do we look up to him), are the deaths and serious accidents related to our backyard pools and household pets. A parental problem? No, a Big Business problem that only a Big Brother can solve.



http://townhall.com/blog/g/7BC75D72-2254-4A03-8A8D-3CD2ADFA98DA

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 01:31:26 PM »

.....I would not let my dog in a car, let alone a child....EVER!! ......foolish people......
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 01:38:56 PM »

When does it end?
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 02:03:40 PM »

It ends when all the individual thinkers are dead, then they can finally do what they want.
Until that day the struggle will continue.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 02:18:17 PM »

I see nothing wrong with the government protecting helpless children.  It is easy to say that the parents should be more resonsible, but if the child is dead, nothing brings the child back.  And the child also suffered immensely while dying.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 03:09:51 PM »

I see nothing wrong with the government protecting helpless children.  It is easy to say that the parents should be more resonsible, but if the child is dead, nothing brings the child back.  And the child also suffered immensely while dying.

Most states already have laws concerning this and those that don't that would mean that the people of that certain state don't care about their children. 

The Fed doesn't need to go into this area when the states have already handled it, just another grab at federal power is all it is.

I am beginning to think you would see nothing wrong with another holocaust as long as you don't like the people dying.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 04:12:13 PM »

I guess we have to protect stupid people from themselves or harming their children..I say put it in.. if it save one child's life from the stupid person who should be caring for them..then it's done it's job!
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 07:32:39 PM »

Most states already have laws concerning this and those that don't that would mean that the people of that certain state don't care about their children. 

The Fed doesn't need to go into this area when the states have already handled it, just another grab at federal power is all it is.

I am beginning to think you would see nothing wrong with another holocaust as long as you don't like the people dying.

Please explain how me saying that I see nothing wrong with the government protecting children translates in your sick mind into me seeing nothing wrong with a Holocaust.  Your statement proves your lack of reason.  You are entitled to your opinion on any and all topics, but your attack on me in this post is absurd and are the rantings of a fool.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 07:34:02 PM »

I guess we have to protect stupid people from themselves or harming their children..I say put it in.. if it save one child's life from the stupid person who should be caring for them..then it's done it's job!

That is my point, Nina.  I agree with your reasoning.  Careful - you may be accused of supporting another Holocaust.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 08:31:07 PM »

A lot of people were mentioned that could make this happen.  Below is my ranking weighted relative to the level of responsibility...


1. Parents
5. News shows like "Today" who can educate the public (without blaming the federal government.)
6. Private inventors who can invent the safety devices. (I would love to see the sales pitch by NASA ((that is the National Aeronautics and Space Administration)) made to get funding to develop that technology.) (Boy did CTC miss an opportunity here)
6A. Car manufacturers that can gain an edge by selling safer cars.
100,000 the federal government.

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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 12:18:32 PM »

Please explain how me saying that I see nothing wrong with the government protecting children translates in your sick mind into me seeing nothing wrong with a Holocaust.  Your statement proves your lack of reason.  You are entitled to your opinion on any and all topics, but your attack on me in this post is absurd and are the rantings of a fool.

YOu think the Feds can do better what the states already have in place?  You are a progressive Oldster you would rather the Federal Government take care of everyone instead of holding people personnally responsible for their own actions.

If we must protect stupid people from themselves then there should be an IQ test prior to having any children and if you fail the test just fix them so they can't produce right?  Would that not be easier then letting children die in a hot car?  Or allowing stupid people to reproduce.  This is how genocides begin people by judging another for their mistakes when we all in the end make quite our fare share of them.   This is the tie into you wanting your holocaust as long as you didn't like the people being killed.  Bigots, lots of bigots on here, ready to judge everyone by higher standards then any of you hold yourselves too.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 12:35:34 PM »

You have gone completely off the deep end.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 04:23:05 PM »

YOu think the Feds can do better what the states already have in place?  You are a progressive Oldster you would rather the Federal Government take care of everyone instead of holding people personnally responsible for their own actions.

If we must protect stupid people from themselves then there should be an IQ test prior to having any children and if you fail the test just fix them so they can't produce right?  Would that not be easier then letting children die in a hot car?  Or allowing stupid people to reproduce.  This is how genocides begin people by judging another for their mistakes when we all in the end make quite our fare share of them.   This is the tie into you wanting your holocaust as long as you didn't like the people being killed.  Bigots, lots of bigots on here, ready to judge everyone by higher standards then any of you hold yourselves too.

The only judgements I have seen rendered in this discussion are yours.  The insanity of your stating that somone who believes that it is an appropriate role of the government to protect children from incapable and irresponsible adults would certainly support a holocaust is beyond even your usual level of absurdity.

And don't tell me what I would rather have done.  You have no idea.  But remember - it was the progressives who obtained the right to vote for women and pushed for woman to be able to be in the armed services.  Your life would be very different without the progressives of the past.

You ask if I think that the Feds can do better than what the states have in place.  I don't elieve that the states can regulate interstate commerce, which the Feds can.  I don't think the states have regulations for the building of automobiles other then emission standards.

You have twisted the entire discussion to defend your rantings.  You have gone off on a tangent about genocide etc.  the discussion was that if we stop these deaths through the way in which cars are built then we will not have such insane ideas as IQ testing for parent hood, and serilization for those who fail.  Where on earth did you get that from in relation to me saying that I think it is a good idea to save the lives of innocent children?

You want a judgement?  You are twisted and sick and angry with the world because you need someone to blame for the things that have gone wrong in your own life.  I'm sorry that you are so unhappy, but it is not the fault of liberals or progressives or the things that they support.  You seem to have made an unfortunate connection between your personal problems and the ideas tht SOME progressives and liberals share.
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 05:05:18 PM »

Am I the only one who heard that the liability issue was a stated reason for auto manufacturers not using this technology?

Perhaps if we as Americans quit asking someone else to take care of us and suing everytime something goes wrong we would find more people and corporations willing to assist us in fulfilling our responsibilities.

It is always the intersections fault when someone runs a stop sign T-boning and killing another. Somehow the illegal act of running the stop sign is ignored.

A mother (or father) leaves an infant in a car because they forgot, and it is the cars fault. In this case the alarm would have probably saved the life. But IF the alarm failed it would then be the car manufacturer's fault and not the mother.

Do you really wonder why they do not use the technology?
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010, 05:24:41 PM »

It's the same for air-bag technology.  Air-bag deployment, puncture a lung, break your Sternum, guess what?  Edgar to the rescue.  Are we better off and safer with this technology...absolutely.  But, where does the madness end?  I believe we all need to take a more active role in lifes responsibilities.  

I know, what am I smokin' ?
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