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« on: August 19, 2010, 06:08:28 AM »

http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x1776905994/Racino-planner-eyes-city

If Johnny Wozniak pulls this off he deserves the key to the city, or something like that.  Here's hoping.............
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2010, 06:29:51 AM »

Phhhhh Give me a hit of that John. Good stuff. Another pipe dream as we sit above the inflatable dam.


                             “I think they’re for real,” Wozniak said.


                 
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2010, 07:13:12 AM »

I still think that inflatable dam would have been a great idea.  What was that - 15 years ago?  Maybe 20.

Ok, just for poops and giggles, let's pretend that this will happen.

Any ideas as to where it would/should go?
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2010, 07:15:04 AM »

I still think that inflatable dam would have been a great idea.  What was that - 15 years ago?  Maybe 20.

Ok, just for poops and giggles, let's pretend that this will happen.

Any ideas as to where it would/should go?
Not in Westmont.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2010, 07:43:10 AM »

Mr Price allready sounds a little suspicious John.


Johnstown could be racetrack site
Thursday, August 19, 2010
By Bill Toland and Tom Barnes, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
A Washington County businessman and stable owner says he wants to build a harness racetrack and casino near Johnstown -- and he says he has the money lined up to do it, something that can't be said of the company that currently holds the rights to build a racetrack in Lawrence County.

Daryl W. Price says he wants the harness racing license that now belongs to Centaur Inc., the company that has been trying unsuccessfully to build a racetrack called Valley View Downs.

Centaur, now in bankruptcy, recently announced that it intends to sell the project -- also in bankruptcy -- but its chances of finding a buyer diminish greatly if the state Harness Racing Commission declines to extend Centaur's development-rights deadline, which is set to expire at the beginning of September.

The commission has a hearing scheduled for Aug. 26 and may decide the issue then. If it decides against extending Centaur's deadline, it could throw open a statewide competition for the harness racing license and the lucrative casino license that would go along with it.

For now, though, "there is no [harness racing] license available for that group to pursue," said Justin Fleming, harness commission spokesman. He also said he doesn't know whether the Aug. 26 meeting will resolve the matter.

Mr. Price heads American Harness Tracks Inc. and has partnered with local real estate developers John Biros and Bob Biros, who will serve as the company's CEO and board chairman. The Biros family, of White Oak, previously pursued a thoroughbred racetrack in South Versailles near the Youghiogheny River but eventually dropped the project.

The ownership group settled on Johnstown, Mr. Price said, after scouting other cities.

"We felt that [Johnstown] was the market that was going to be the most effective for the horsemen, in the central part of the state, away from the other" racetracks and casinos.

Neither John Biros nor Bob Biros could be reached for comment on Wednesday.

All are familiar, if not well-known, names in horse racing circles, though Mr. Price has notoriety. In 1997, the former North Strabane supervisor and operator of Windcrest Stables at what was then The Meadows racetrack (now, there's a casino there, too) was accused by a handful of business associates of duping them out of horses and racing winnings.

Mr. Price, who was 28 at the time, said, via his lawyer, that the dispute was a misunderstanding. Ultimately, the Harness Racing Commission was pressed to investigate the case. The matter eventually settled out of court, but the families involved don't recall their dealings with Mr. Price fondly.

"We lost $13,000," said Matthew J. Kail, one of the horse owners involved in the dispute. "Everyone lost, expect for one person -- Daryl Price."

More recently, Mr. Price owned and ran the Rhythm House Cafe, a popular Bridgeville live-music venue that closed this year.

On Wednesday, he said his group has a "rural" location near Johnstown selected for the casino and racetrack, with options to buy the properties, and he also has a track operator lined up. He wasn't yet ready to divulge the site or the name of the gaming operator. The group is "prepared to invest $200 million and create 1,500 permanent jobs and 1,200 construction jobs," he said.

Mr. Price's group has yet to float the plan with anybody in the Johnstown business community, nor has it had any discussions with the Harness Racing Commission.

Absent those discussions, "we wanted to get in line" in the event that Centaur loses its harness rights, Mr. Price said.

"We think we have a good plan, in a good location, in an area that needs the jobs and needs tourism," he said.

The same can be said of Lawrence County.

Two Lawrence County officials, Commissioner Dan Vogler and state Rep. Chris Sainato, repeated their strong support Wednesday for putting the racino at Centaur's 250-acre site, west of New Castle and near the Ohio boundary.

"It's an ideal site and it's ready to go" as soon as a developer with sufficient capital is found, said Mr. Vogler.

Stripping Centaur of its development rights "could slow things down for another two years" while hearings are held on each proposal, Mr. Sainato said. He noted that it took the Harness Racing Commission four years, from 2003 to 2007, just to decide whether Centaur or its competitor, the Shick family of New Castle, should get the harness racing license.

"The best scenario to get this built as soon as possible is to keep the racetrack casino in Lawrence County," which needs the permanent jobs and the construction jobs, he said.

"If the Johnstown people want to build on the Lawrence County site, I'd be more than happy to welcome them."

According to the Pennsylvania Department of State's corporations bureau, there is not yet an entity called "American Harness Tracks Inc." incorporated to do business in Pennsylvania, though there is an American Harness Corp., which is based in Philadelphia.

Bill Toland: btoland@post-gazette.com or 412-263-2625. Harrisburg Bureau Chief Tom Barnes: tbarnes@post-gazette.com or 717-787-4254.


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10231/1081075-455.stm#ixzz0x3E5vS00
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2010, 07:59:06 AM »

I still think that inflatable dam would have been a great idea.  What was that - 15 years ago?  Maybe 20.

Ok, just for poops and giggles, let's pretend that this will happen.

Any ideas as to where it would/should go?

Kernville.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2010, 08:43:28 AM »

The Mound?
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2010, 08:56:28 AM »

Careful, Chip Minemeyer may be watching.
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2010, 11:23:35 AM »

Hey this sounds like something that maybe all you should get around and support.  If they got the money, and it should not be hard to find out if you can get the list of their investors.  J-town could really be rocking with that intake of people and money.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2010, 11:32:20 AM »

You would mean suburban Johnstown I imagine.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2010, 11:45:58 AM »

WJAC's website article says "around Johnstown."  I wonder what that means.  Weren't they talking about Seven Springs at one point?

How about that moonlike area above JWFI (old lower ore yard) that was in the news a couple months ago?  There's a TON of land up there.  I think you could have access from below (Broad Street) and from above (I guess heading towards Route 271.)
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2010, 12:20:00 PM »

seven Springs(Nutting family) and Nemacolin(Joe Hardy-84 Lumber) were both considering getting resort casino licenses a few years back but ran into issues with them.  Nemacolin's was due to what a guest would have to spend at the resort outside of casino gamblings just to be able to play there.  Seven Springs was due to the fact that the Nuttings bought out the resort.  The license was still in the application stage but their involvement with the Pirates and MLB was what did that deal in.  There has been talk of Nemacolin refiling the application if the rules on the amounts needed to play changed.  Not sure where that stands now.

As for Johnstown that JWFI/Bethlehem area would be good.  Traffic issues would be a little harder there especially access from the bottom.  A bridge at Broad would have to be built along with making that intersection with Roosevelt a four-way.  You could use Honan Ave to gain access to that site from Iron St and Minersville section of the city.  Another nice area but not sure of the usability would be along Eisenhower and even behind the old 84 Lumber building in the old landfill.  The biggest thing in the Richland area would be the airport issues with lighting and height restrictions.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2010, 12:32:24 PM »

PHHHHHHH here take a hit. Good stuff. Grin
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2010, 12:49:32 PM »

Sandyvale Cemetary and the surrounding Horner Street area might work well too.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 01:27:55 PM »

Wozniak said, "They contacted ME ME ME after I I I was quoted in the newspaper...
Oh just wait until the purists, bible thumpers and other assorted naysayers chime in on this.
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