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« on: October 14, 2011, 09:27:40 AM » |
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I wonder if there is any chance that the real underpinning of this movement is based on Rich vs Rich. We have some millionaires saying that loopholes allow them to pay less taxes, kind of a weak excuse because you are not required to employ those loopholes, and others saying that higher taxes will reduce there incentive to hire folks. But many of those actually protesting are indebted to many of the same millionaires, on both sides of the issue, because those rich folk have holdings in the various financial institutions making those loans. One of the protesters arguments is that they are too far in debt with the banks but the banks operate on publicly traded stocks so while some conservative investers are profiting on these loans, so are liberal investors. The bottom line is that for one rich person to have more influence they must reduce the influence of another rich person. To do this openly would be obvious so it is much more productive to fire-up another sociological group to diminish the influence of their peers.
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 09:39:14 AM » |
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Hadn't thought of it but it would make sense that for the rich to get richer they will have to take (or earn as some call it) more of someone else's money. To take more of someone else's money, someone else must, of course, have money to take. Soon 60% of the population will need to receive government aid to meet basic needs, then 70%.
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yoyo
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2011, 09:49:25 AM » |
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Just like doritos, they will make more.
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redcap
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2011, 10:36:32 AM » |
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Problem solving 101. Work on the problem untill one finds a scapegoat.
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Still looking at the grass from the green side.
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RobinQuillonsHair
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 10:39:52 AM » |
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Or simply, blame the government.
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redcap
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 10:42:36 AM » |
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That works too.
BUT avoid actually working toward resolution at all costs.
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Still looking at the grass from the green side.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 10:47:39 AM » |
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or better yet, deny a problem exists
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redcap
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 11:07:16 AM » |
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In this particular case does it really exist?
The wealthy have contolled things throughout my lifetime.
Can a person still go from rags to riches and, if so, is it any harder or easier than it has always been?
Or, have we just progressed to the point where we expect it to be given to us rather than to have to work for it?
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Still looking at the grass from the green side.
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WDVE
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 11:09:54 AM » |
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I think you answered your own question Red IMO.
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Five Points "You do the best you can. You put the fire out, and wait for another one". In memory of Captain Terence Hatton RS 1 FDNY "Rapid Water"
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redcap
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 11:18:06 AM » |
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The "local" take over here has people from other states.
They are asking for food.
One man stated he would stay and use the military if he had to.
WTH?
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Still looking at the grass from the green side.
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pbal
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 01:57:32 PM » |
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Hadn't thought of it but it would make sense that for the rich to get richer they will have to take (or earn as some call it) more of someone else's money. To take more of someone else's money, someone else must, of course, have money to take. Soon 60% of the population will need to receive government aid to meet basic needs, then 70%.
Perhaps the key is in not allowing the government and it's defacto propaganda arms to define "basic needs." In 10,000 years, the transference of wealth and power from one set of hands to another hasn't made a damned bit of difference in people. What's going to change this time?
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What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
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Alfred E. Neuman
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 05:56:42 PM » |
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...i've gone from rags to riches numerous times...it's all about timing....being in the right place at the right time.......
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Wiener
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2011, 01:00:19 AM » |
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When you find out who actually began the organizing of this movement I am betting that they want the over throw of the American Government, to collapse this nation so other "poorer" nations can have a chance.
I can't believe some of the interviews I have been seeing are these kids really this stupid about basic economics?
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"Those that would give up Liberty in the name of security, deserve neither and will loose both." Ben Franklin
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Citizen X
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2011, 07:55:00 AM » |
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I have yet to see one anti-Obama adminstration sign in those crowds yet which is hard to believe since he and probably most of his cabinet are in the 1% of Americans that the protesters so loathe. And since Obama is obviously in bed with the banks and Wall Street you'd think that they'd at least be asking for his resignation or impeachment but they haven't yet which I find a bit puzzling.
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Wiener
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2011, 08:01:26 AM » |
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That is because of who is providing them money and food at their rally. The unions and we all know the unions are pro Obama.
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"Those that would give up Liberty in the name of security, deserve neither and will loose both." Ben Franklin
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