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« on: October 20, 2011, 08:05:04 AM » |
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"Those that would give up Liberty in the name of security, deserve neither and will loose both."
Ben Franklin
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yoyo
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 08:14:51 AM » |
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Wiener
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 08:16:49 AM » |
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Cute, good tune ya know I love "The Man in Black."
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"Those that would give up Liberty in the name of security, deserve neither and will loose both."
Ben Franklin
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Wiener
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 09:28:47 AM » |
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"Those that would give up Liberty in the name of security, deserve neither and will loose both."
Ben Franklin
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 11:37:47 AM » |
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WTH? Nobody ever heard of giving receipts?
My money says it is legal tender for all debts public and private.
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Still looking at the grass from the green side.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 11:46:07 AM » |
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I'm not sure where they're going with this. The claim is that criminals can sell stolen goods under-the-radar at many used goods sales. My guess is that the loss of tax revenue from the sale of new goods stolen from store shelves and warehouses since Katrina is a driving force. But the side effects of this law could impact yard sales, garage sales and flea markets. Keeping in mind that there was some discussion of disapproval of these types of sales at the Congressional level a few years ago, I no longer have any articles about it but it did happen, which makes me wonder if this is a trial balloon of sorts.
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pbal
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 06:08:44 PM » |
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Goodwill? How many burglars drop their loot off at Goodwill on the way home?
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What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
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beeker
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 04:35:28 AM » |
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I'm not sure where they're going with this. The claim is that criminals can sell stolen goods under-the-radar at many used goods sales. My guess is that the loss of tax revenue from the sale of new goods stolen from store shelves and warehouses since Katrina is a driving force. But the side effects of this law could impact yard sales, garage sales and flea markets. Keeping in mind that there was some discussion of disapproval of these types of sales at the Congressional level a few years ago, I no longer have any articles about it but it did happen, which makes me wonder if this is a trial balloon of sorts.
This is what makes me wonder if there is an alterior motive. http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x1184196932/Burden-on-Pa-taxpayers-to-report-purchases |
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Wiener
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 07:43:45 AM » |
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Well I expect the rich to jump right to the front of the line to pay their taxes on purchases made in another state.
What if I bought something in say TN where sales tax is 11% is Pa gonna refund me the difference?
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"Those that would give up Liberty in the name of security, deserve neither and will loose both."
Ben Franklin
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beeker
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 12:18:54 PM » |
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I think what we're doing is subtly creating a crime. First we tell the non-retail sellers to track all sales, then we tell the buyers to report purchases. Everything is coming together to have a future crime of "Failing to Report a Taxable Purchase". Since the rich can just buy new and the middle class, who tends to be the frontrunner of these type of sales, will be pressured to stop, the poor will be the only ones that are now forced to buy new at a much higher price (with Tax).
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Jehovahsman
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 02:48:41 PM » |
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Where did the need to find, search out, and punish every single crime come from? There comes a point that the law can just be downright oppressive and so intrusive that it ought to be a crime to make a law.
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sitting on the garage roof picking cherries off the tree and eating them, spitting the pits at the unsuspecting masses as they walk by in their perpetual state of denial.
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yoyo
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 03:46:51 PM » |
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The Mercy SeatIt ALL began when they come took me from my home And put me on Death Row, a crime for which I am totally innocent, you know.....
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Wiener
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2011, 06:58:51 PM » |
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Where did the need to find, search out, and punish every single crime come from? There comes a point that the law can just be downright oppressive and so intrusive that it ought to be a crime to make a law.
Well that is one of the first things you have ever said that I agree with but then Justice is like that, just depends on what side of the law you are on. The wrong side or the right side. |
"Those that would give up Liberty in the name of security, deserve neither and will loose both."
Ben Franklin
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yoyo
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2011, 11:01:49 AM » |
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Wiener
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2011, 11:04:54 AM » |
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Keep going we will get those likes up there yet.   |
"Those that would give up Liberty in the name of security, deserve neither and will loose both."
Ben Franklin
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