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« on: September 16, 2009, 10:14:24 AM »
Baucus Bill not popular.


yeap it doesn't look good for this bill, it might not even get out of the senate.
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 10:33:23 AM »
Quote from: Wiener on September 16, 2009, 10:14:24 AM
Baucus Bill not popular.


yeap it doesn't look good for this bill, it might not even get out of the senate.

it should not be because only lowering the pricetag doesn't fix the problems - and this pricetagis only about what Dubya approved for bailing out Wall St/Fannie-Freddie/Banks

ONLY a Public Option will get BIG Insurers to begin cutting costs - Competition is only a good thing for repubs when one of the competitors ain't gov't

the poor will still not be able to afford this plan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/15/AR2009091502978.html?wpisrc=newsletter

and here from a previous Insurance EXEC

http://www.commondreams.org/video/2009/09/16
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 12:55:42 PM »
Until both sides sit down and actually debate the issue this issue is going nowhere.


Of course underhanded politic's could always play a role in getting it passed.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2009, 11:54:52 AM »
the Kennedy Plan was going to cost LESS and provide MORE so why go for bipatisanship?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20090916/cm_huffpost/289064;_ylt=AoxC_iBrAhVQ4LErH1carrv9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTJkcGFmcGs5BGFzc2V0A2h1ZmZwb3N0LzIwMDkwOTE2LzI4OTA2NARjcG9zAzMEcG9zAzQEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDd2l0aGFoZWFsdGhj
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A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2009, 11:56:48 AM »
Quote from: whatfreedom on September 17, 2009, 11:54:52 AM
the Kennedy Plan was going to cost LESS and provide MORE so why go for bipatisanship?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20090916/cm_huffpost/289064;_ylt=AoxC_iBrAhVQ4LErH1carrv9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTJkcGFmcGs5BGFzc2V0A2h1ZmZwb3N0LzIwMDkwOTE2LzI4OTA2NARjcG9zAzMEcG9zAzQEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDd2l0aGFoZWFsdGhj

Because Kennedy is dead.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2009, 12:02:31 PM »
Quote from: Wiener on September 17, 2009, 11:56:48 AM
Because Kennedy is dead.

girlfriend any member of Congress can pick up what has already been written and introduce it if my knowledge of civics is correct but I'm thinking it must already be floating around for peoples to know how much it will cost
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